
‘Ɖ Aṃzn z ɖ vjîna v ɖ wrld’: ẃ wimin r ci t sevñ Bṛzil’z forists
(Transcription of an article published in the Guardian on 10 August 2020)
Indijṇs līdr Célia Xakriabá n Vjîṇmoṇlogz oʈr V dscus Bṛzil’z bîoḍvrṣti crîsis n ẃ ɖs z ɖ snćri v ɖ indijṇs wmn
Munde, 10 Ōġst 2020
‘Ɖ Bṛziłn guvnmnt z cmitñ jeṇsîd’, sz indijṇs līdr Célia Xakriabá – vidio
Célia Xakriabá z ɖ vôs v a ny jeṇreśn v fīmel indijṇs līdrz hu r līdñ ɖ fît agnst ɖ dstrux́n v Bṛzil’z forists bʈ in ɖ Aṃzn n ɖ lesr-noun Cerrado, a svana ɖt cuvrz a fifʈ v ɖ cuntri. “V”, formrli Īv Enslr, z ɖ aword-winñ oʈr v ɖ Vjîṇmoṇlogz, an acṭvist n fǎndr v V-De, a globl muvmnt t end vayḷns agnst ol wimin n grlz n ɖ Rʈ. Ɖ tū rīsntli hld a convseśn in ẃć V asct Xakriabá abt ẃt z haṗnñ t Bṛzil’z bîoḍvrṣti n indijṇs pplz, n ẃ wimin r ɖ ci t ćenj.
V: Mni ppl, ispeṣ́li in ɖ wst, d’nt riyli unḍstand ẃt’s haṗnñ t ɖ Cerrado in Bṛzil. Cn y tel s ẃt’s haṗnñ t ɖ forists?
C: It’s vri tuf at ɖs momnt. Evri minit wn prsn dîz v Covid-19, bt olso evri minit wn tri z cut. N ẃnvr a tri z cut, a part v s z cut, a part v s olso dîz, bcz ɖ teritri dîz n wɖ no teritri ɖr z no er, no gd er fr evrwn in ɖ wrld. Ppl c’nt briɖ. So ol ɖs Covid cntaṃneśn, it gts t ɖ teritri ʈru ɖ mainrz, ɖ goldmainrz, ɖ logrz n ɖ renjrz. N nǎ ɖt w r gtñ t Ōġst, w gt īvn mor wurid abt ɖ fîrz, ol ɖ fîrz ɖt brnt ɖ Aṃzn last yir. It’s gwñ t cm bac.
N ẃt hapnz t ol ɖ animlz, n t ɖ brdz n t evri livñ ʈñ in ɖ forist? Ẃt hapnz t ɖm?
Ẃn ɖ forist z brnt, ɖ brdz n ɖ animlz, ɖe r îɖr brnt or ɖe g awe. N ɖs dz’nt afct onli ɖ animlz, bt it olso afcts s. W rlî on ɖm t īt. So wɖ no animlz, w hv t rlî on fūd fṛm ɖ ǎtsd, n ɖs endz p mcñ ǎr ćildṛn n ǎr wimin sic, hir wɖ ɖ Xakriabá ppl. I cn hír ɖ soñ v ɖ brdz nǎ, bt it’s olso a soñ v miẓri, v sadnis, bcz most v ɖm, ɖe r alon. Ɖe hv lost ɖer partnrz. Ɖ brdz, ɖe yẓ́li sñ az a cupl. N mni v ɖm r nǎ sññ alon. N w, ɖ indijṇs, r bcmñ mor alon, bcz ɖ’r tecñ ppl fṛm s.
Ẃn I frst met y, w laft bcz w wr tōcñ abt vjînaz n y tld m ɖt ɖ Aṃzn wz ɖ vjîna v ɖ wrld. So cn y tōc a litl bit abt ɖt?
Ɖ Aṃzn’z lîc ɖ vjîna v ɖ wrld bcz it’s ẃr ppl cm fṛm. It’s lîc ɖ entridor v ɖ wrld. Ẃn ɖs oṗnñ z sic, ɖ fyćr jeṇreśnz, ɖe wl b sic olso. Ppl lost ɖs cnx́n t ɖ Rʈ bcz ɖe d’nt si Rʈ n land az a reḷtiv. Fr m, ɖ Rʈ z lîc a granmuɖr, bcz it’s Rʈ hu gev brʈ t ol v ɖ muɖrz v ɖ wrld. Rʈ z lîc ɖ frst indipndnt wmn ɖt crietd hymaṇti, n Rʈ nīdd rivrz n wōtr t criet hymaṇti. Bt nǎ ppl jst si Rʈ az a ʈñ. Ɖe cn dzîn big sitiz, bt ɖe c’nt si ɖs cnx́n t Rʈ. Ɖe g t ɖ sūṗmarcit, t ɖ groṣristor, n ɖe d’nt nǒ ẃr ɖt fūd cmz fṛm.
It’s so pǎrfl t si hǎ mni indijṇs wimin r līdñ ɖ strugl t dfnd ɖ forists n ɖ land. Ẃ d y ʈnc ɖs z importnt?
I’v bn seyñ ɖt ɖs 21st snćri, it’s ɖ snćri v ɖ indijṇs wmn, bcz y c’nt kr wɖ ɖ sem īvl ɖt frst cōzd ɖ sicnis. Y hv t oṿcm ɖs coḷnîzñ pǎr ɖt z mnli mel. I lîc t se abt ɖ metrix v dstrux́n ɖt it’s nt metrix, it’s ɖ petrix bcz it’s best on petriarci, nt metriarci. N ɖ wimin, ɖe r ɖ wnz hu r in ɖs snćri rīgenñ pǎr ovr ɖ land, bcz ɖe nǒ hǎ t kr ɖ Rʈ. Wimin hv ɖs nolij n ɖt’s ẃ w r on ɖ fruntlîn rît nǎ. I am fîtñ t nt onli streñʈn ɖ rǒl v wimin in ɖ teritri n in ɖ fît, bt olso in poḷtics, wɖ indijṇs wimin runñ fr pziśnz in parḷmnt, in ɖ Bṛziłn Congres. Hu cn tec betr cer v hymaṇti, f nt wimin?
Cn y tōc a litl bit abt hǎ petriarci hz disc̣nctd s fṛm ɖ land n ɖ cnx́n v petriarci n capiṭlizm?
Ẃn Pedro Álvares Cabral frst invedd Bṛzil in ɖ 1500z, ɖ frst ʈñ ɖt got hiz atnśn wz ɖ wŭd fṛm ɖ pau-Brasil, ẃć z ẃr ɖ nem Bṛzil cmz fṛm. In 1511, ɖs gai nemd Fernando de Noronha xportd 5,000 pau-Brasil t Yṛp. So ɖt’s ẃn it ol bgan. Sins ɖen, ɖe d’nt rspct ɖ rleśn v ɖ indijṇs ppl wɖ tîm. Ɖt’s ẃ capiṭlizm siz indijṇs ppl az a ʈret. Y hv t tec evrʈñ y cn in az litl tîm az poṣbl, bt ɖt’s nt hǎ indijṇs ppl rlet t tîm n t lebr. Yea, ɖ indijṇs ppl wr’nt cīpñ p wɖ ɖ “progres” v hymaṇti bt it’s nt ɖt w r lêt, it’s bcz ɖ’r cilñ s. In ɖ last yir ɖr wz mor ɖn a miłn hecterz v dstrux́n in ol ɖ six bîomz v Bṛzil. Sins ɖ 1500z, untl nǎ, no Rʈ, no land, no muɖr, no wmn cn s’port ɖs cnd v dstrux́n.

Cn y tel m ẃt z ɖ livd xpirịns v ɖ strugl fr lîf n ɖ strugl v ɖ indijṇs pplz in ɖs fêz v ɖ onslōt v ɖ xtractiv inḍstriz, n nǎ wɖ Covid xaṣbetñ ɖ sićueśn? Ẃt z haṗnñ?
Jrñ ɖs pandemic w r mcñ ɖs ef̣t t rmen in ǎr teritriz, in ǎr hǎzz, in ǎr homz, bt olso at ɖ sem tîm, w hv t ćalinj, t fît, bcz vri far awe in Bṛzil, in ɖ Congres, ɖe r ngośietñ ǎr teritriz, ǎr homz n ǎr hǎzz. Jrñ ɖ pandemic, hundṛdz v indijṇs ppl hv daid. Bt w hv t ʈnc abt hǎ mni ppl wd dî f w d’nt fît. Y hv t ʈnc abt ɖ pandemic ɖt z cilñ s, abt ɖ resizm ɖt z cilñ s, abt ɖ macropoḷtics, abt ɖ coḷnîześn, ɖ absns v ɖ stet. It’s hard t tel ẃć wepn z mor denjṛs, bcz w r gtñ cild bî mni difṛnt wepnz.
‘Lîc a bom gwñ of’: ẃ Bṛzil’z larjist rzrv z fesñ dstrux́n
It apirz vri clir ɖt Prezidnt Jair Bolsonaro hz weṗnîzd Covid agnst indijṇs pplz. Cn y tōc a litl bit abt ɖs?
Indijṇs pplz in Bṛzil, ɖe r 1% v ɖ jenṛl popyleśn, bt ɖ’r olmst 9% v ɖ victimz v Covid-19. Ẃn ppl se ɖt Covid-19 dz’nt ćūz clas or rês or jndr, it’s cnd v a lî, bcz ɖ stet, ɖe ćūz hu wl dî. Ɖ guvnmnt, it cn jusṭfî ol v ɖs, seyñ ɖt it’s jst a dziz, it’s a ftaḷti. Ẃn an eldr, ẃn an importnt līdr v indijṇs pplz dîz, a part v s olso dîz wɖ ɖm. It’s lîc ɖ ansestrz n ɖ eldrz, ɖ’r ɖ handz ɖt hold ɖ ratlz ẃn y’r sññ. It dz’nt matr f I ste alîv, a part v m, or sm parts v m hv daid in ɖs pandemic.

I luv ɖ campen #CuraDaTerra [Kr v ɖ Rʈ], bcz it xpresz ɖs îdīa v indijṇs pplz az ɖ kr, ɖ antidot, ɖ groʈspes past capiṭlizm ʈru livñ in simbiosis wɖ nećr, indijṇs stywdśp v land, tṛdiśnl indijṇs invîrnmntl nolij. Hǎ z ɖs biyñ rsivd in Bṛzil?
Wn ʈñ ɖt z vri importnt z w pe atnśn t ɖz ʈñz lîc rīc̣nx́n, rītecñ, riinćantmnt, bcz ɖt’s wn ʈñ ɖt indijṇs ppl d t hop fr a betr wrld. It’s nt ɖ cemiclz or ɖ activ prínsiplz jeṇretd in l’boṛtriz arnd ɖ wrld ɖt r gwñ t kr ɖ Rʈ. Ẃt z gwñ t kr ɖ Rʈ z ǎr cpaṣti, ǎr abiḷti t riacṭvet ǎr cnx́n t ɖ Rʈ, t riacṭvet ǎr culćr n t riacṭvet ɖ pǎr v ǎr ansestrz. W hv ɖs culćr dīp insd s, n y c’nt ćenj ɖt. W c’nt kr īvl wɖt krñ ɖ Rʈ, bcz ɖ Rʈ z blīdñ. It’s fl v scarz bcz v its ćildṛn. N f y d’nt lisn t ɖ Rʈ, w wl ol dî. Sm ppl me nt dî d’recli in teritriconflicts, bt ɖe wl dî, bcz ɖe w’nt hv enʈñ left t briɖ. Ol ɖe wl hv left z pôzn.
Lîc in ɖ YS, Bṛzil z gwñ ʈru a cnd v darc nît v ɖ soul wɖ Bolsonaro in pǎr.
Bolsonaro lîcs t se ɖt indijṇs pplz r bcmñ mor hymn, bt ɖ indijṇs pplz d’nt lîc ɖ cnd v hymaṇti ɖt dz’nt rspct ɖ Rʈ, dz’nt rspct ɖ animlz, bcz y cn onli nǒ hǎ t b a hymn f y nǒ hǎ t b a plant, hǎ t b a sīd, hǎ t b fūd. N so acć̣li ɖs project, it’s an anti-hymaṇterịn project v ɖ guvnmnt. It repriznts a sic luñ, a sic orgn v ɖ bodi v ɖ Rʈ.

N ẃ d y ʈnc at ɖs momnt ɖt w hv so mni līdrz in ɖ wrld lîc Trump or Dūterte or Modi or Pūćin or Bolsonaro?
Ol v ɖs z bcz w r livñ in a momnt v dspyts, dspyts v valyz. Ɖe r nt part v ɖs project v rīgenñ n rītecñ ɖ valyz v lîf. Ɖe r lîc bôlz on yr scin, n ɖe imrj wɖ ol ɖ fyri, ɖz bôlz, lîc a cansr t ɖz valyz v lîf. Ɖe imrj wɖ ɖs fyri bcz ɖe apir t hv ɖ dzîr t xtnḡś ol dvrṣti – ɖ dvrṣti v lîf, ɖ dvrṣti v culćr, ɖ dvrṣti v sīdz, ɖ dvrṣti v teritri.
Ẃt z ɖ mūd n ɖ fīlñ in Bṛzil rît nǎ?
Sm ppl hu ʈt w wr inviẓbl, ɖe dd’nt lc, dd’nt pe atnśn t ɖ indijṇs popyleśnz, nǎ ɖ’r startñ t pe atnśn t s. N ɖ indijṇs ppl, ɖe hv wɖn ɖmslvz ɖ sns v soḷdaṛti n v cnx́n ɖt uɖr pplz d’nt hv. N ɖt’s smʈñ ɖt cn hlp hīl ɖ Rʈ n hīl ǎr wrld bcz hymaṇti, wɖt luv, it’s a ded hymaṇti.
N hǎ d y ste grǎndd in ɖ mdst v ol ɖz ćenjz haṗnñ in ɖ Cerrado n ɖen ɖ planit at larj?
Ɖ fît z ẃt fīdz m. So evri tîm I ʈnc abt tecñ a step awe fṛm ɖ fît, I c’nt. N az an indijṇs prsn, y fît t svîv. Y d’nt riyli hv anɖr ćôs. I ʈnc abt ɖ fît az ɖ ćildṛn ɖt I hv’nt jeṇretd yt, ɖ ćildṛn ɖt I n ɖ indijṇs pplz wl gv brʈ t in ɖ fyćr. I rmembr ɖt sm tîm ago in anɖr jeṇsîdl proses ɖt wz gwñ on, ɖ līdrz n ɖ indijṇs pplz wr’nt alaud t pent ɖmslvz. So ɖ wimin wd cīp ɖz pentñpots in ɖer hǎzz. It wz a we v nt fgetñ ɖ pentñz n ɖ patnz. N nǎ ẃn I ʈnc abt ɖt, I ʈnc abt mî bodi az a pot. I lîc t pent mslf bcz it’s a we v gtñ ol ɖs meṃri itrṇlîzd, n nt fgetñ, bcz mor ɖn fîtñ, pentñ mslf z a we v cntinywñ ẃt mî ansestrz wr dwñ. Sm fīl priti ẃn ɖe pt on ɖer bst dres. I fīl priti ẃn I pent mslf. N it’s nt onli ɖt. Ẃn I pent mslf, I fīd mî spirit n I cīp mî mînd stroñ. N mî hedres gvz pǎr t mî ʈts n t mî fît. So, ẃn I pent mslf, ẃn I pt mî hedres on, I’m nt onli dwñ ɖt t śo uɖrz, I’m dwñ ɖt t cīp mslf, mî mînd n mî spirit stroñ n féd, t cīp sññ.

Ẃt cn alîz in ɖ globl norʈ d t b in soḷdaṛti wɖ y, yr cḿṇti, n ɖ afctd cḿṇtiz v Bṛzil?
Ppl cn fît alñ wɖ ɖ Indijṇs pplz az f ɖe wr fîtñ fr ɖer ǒn ćildṛn. Bcz ẃn y fît tgɖr wɖ indijṇs pplz, it’s nt jst a matr v soḷdaṛti. It’s lîc y’r fîtñ fr yr ǒn faṃli, yr ǒn ćildṛn, yr ǒn granćildṛn, bcz ɖ indijṇs popyleśnz, ɖe pṛtct arnd 82% v ɖ wrld’z bîoḍvrṣti.
Ẃt’s yr viźn v ɖ fyćr?
Mî hop fr ɖ fyćr z biyñ alîv. N bî ɖt I d’nt mīn jst mî bodi biyñ alîv. Bt ǎr vôs hz t b alîv. Ǎr meṃri, ǎr ćants, ǎr sññ, n ǎr wūm, bcz y c’nt b alîv in yr bodi f ɖ wūm v ɖ Rʈ z sic, bcz ẃn ɖ Rʈ z sic, w c’nt gt fūd. N ẃt’s ɖ pônt v cīpñ yr bodi alîv f ol arnd y z ded?
N lastli: plīz dscrîb yr viźn v ẃt ɖ “riinćantmnt” mīnz.
Riinćantmnt z wɖn s. Ppl r vri wurid abt ɖs Covid imrjnsi, abt biyñ ebl t tuć uɖr ppl n t fīl an ifct, a luv v afx́n fr uɖr ppl. Bt ẃt riyli z ɖs riinćantmnt? It’s ɖ luv ɖt w fīl fr ɖ rivrz, fr ɖ forist, fr fūd. W hv t ʈnc ɖt ɖ riyl bordrz v ɖ wrld, it’s nt ɖ bordrz btwn Bṛzil n ɖ Ynîtd Stets, or btwn ɖ Aṃzn n ɖ Cerrado. Ɖ riyl bordrz v ɖ wrld r ɖ bordrz btwn resizm n bîoḍvrṣti. W c’nt drop ɖs fît. W hv t cīp fîtñ fr ɖ bîoḍvrṣti, fr ɖs kr v ɖ Rʈ, n fr ǎr teritriz, bcz wn hu hz teritri hz a ples t rtrn, n wn hu hz a ples t rtrn hz refyj, hz wormʈ. N ɖt’s ẃ w nīd t cīp fîtñ.
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